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[09-30, 08:57] <atikabubu
> where the hell is the Sabagebu ED Single...
[09-30, 07:55] <OneCrazyRussian
> Now everyone shut up and enjoy Space Dandy end.
[09-30, 07:45] <[TRVE]
> I remux DVDISOs and watch everything with mpv (or MPC, depending on which computer I use).
[09-30, 07:44] <txtsd
> I've been running archlinux for more than a month now, and I miss mpc-hc more than anything :/
[09-30, 07:35] <sarachikorita
> Disclaimer: I use mplayer2 as my main player, mpv as my second player, and mplayer1 as my DVDISO handler on Windows. (mplayer2 and mpv share a common bug on Windows regarding DVD filesystems; mplayer1 doesn't have this bug, and it isn't an issue on Linux.)
[09-30, 06:32] <txtsd
> thanks @sarachikorita
[09-30, 06:05] <sarachikorita
> Only limitation of mplayer/mplayer2 is its crappy rendering of bitmap subs. For that, just use mpv, which is a fork of mplayer2.
[09-30, 05:46] <hazardous
> there's always some pixel blocks somewhere with VLC and during action scenes, it rains pixels. not to mention video looks kinda blurry on VLC.
[09-30, 05:18] <txtsd
> Is there a guide for linux players? I switched to linux as my default OS and I've been using mplayer.
[09-30, 03:59] <Bobezlol
> x265 is being aimed at 4k BD's and streaming stuff (like skype video chat crap)
[09-30, 03:27] <S3qu3l
> Anyway you can scroll further in the chat or it's just limited to those few lines ?
[09-30, 03:22] <herkz
> yes. it's not nearly as good as 10-bit x264 as far as banding is concerned, which makes it pretty useless for anime.
[09-30, 02:35] <x265
> Yeah, that was the example that made me try psy=1.0 values and 10-bit, I think fading and banding is one of the weak points of x265
[09-30, 02:32] <herkz
> it's insanely easy to tell the difference in that comparison. just look at the entire top-left
[09-30, 02:24] <x265
> Yeah, that was a 8 bit build, and you just said it, you need to go to the detail to spot the difference; so basically: x265 is only better than x264 in terms of quality/size at "medium to low" quality; but x264 is still greater than x265 if you look into the detail
[09-30, 02:13] <lotusgg
> You can only tell it's worse by looking very very close at a side-by-side comparison with x265 with half the size.
[09-30, 02:11] <lotusgg
> I do x265 as second format for many animes at a brazillian fansub, and the results are quite satisfatory.
[09-30, 02:10] <lotusgg
> http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/93604 is this 8bits build?
[09-30, 01:04] <MisterDonut
> he caught the stinx from Eien
[09-30, 00:59] <HerbalNekoTea
> @Imouto6969 Nope, ArchDeco, a certain member of the translation team of FFF got some Computersaure problem.
[09-29, 22:32] <x265
> http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/93607 I've tried 10-bits, and results is kind of the same thing, but bitrate is lower, thx
[09-29, 22:10] <vivan
> now switch to 10 bit builds and you'll see everybody is uisng them.
[09-29, 21:54] <x265
> Amazing, psy-rd=1.0 and psy-rdoq=1.0, and there you have it, banding is almost gone (it took 4x more time encode though)
[09-29, 21:54] <x265
[09-29, 21:37] <x265
> It seems that crf=16 is the border line, above that, x264 still wins
[09-29, 21:34] <x265
> Which I don't know, is how this will affect the size...
[09-29, 21:33] <x265
> Yeah, I can see it, but as far as I know, that can be solved adjusting parameters, I'll keep trying
[09-29, 21:32] <Varshnyar
> banding is present all over your release, and that was the problem i found when I tried x265 long ago
[09-29, 21:32] <x265
> That means I need to find better settings for anime, x265 needs to improve fading in general, it makes a good job with edges, but lighting and fading need more works
[09-29, 21:31] <Varshnyar
> But the difference between both screenshots is really big D: Can't you see that colorbanding?
[09-29, 21:29] <x265
> screenshoots are really closer this one, same bitrate and preset?
[09-29, 21:26] <x265
> I'm really missing "-tune animation" in x265, it is a pain configure and experiment parameters manually...
[09-29, 21:15] <x265
> I see, I think that using "fast" is a bad idea, it causes that ugly effect on fading surfaces like that door
[09-29, 21:14] <Varshnyar
> Close to very slow settings
[09-29, 21:06] <SneakiestNEG
> It has been ages since I logged in but the last time I did Crunchy player went bad.
[09-29, 21:04] <x265
> I used preset fast in that one, which one did you used?
[09-29, 21:04] <SneakiestNEG
> At the end of the day we are all relying on Crunchy or Funi, no? Personally I watch older stuff so the BD rips are already up.
[09-29, 21:01] <Varshnyar
> http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/93603 (same bitrate, x264 still wins)
[09-29, 21:00] <vivan
> crf 10 is a way too low, on a reasonable values (15-20) x264 clearly wins, x265 starts winning on 30+ which nobody sane uses (since you should downscale instead).
[09-29, 20:54] <x265
> When it comes to crf=10, highest rates, x264 and x265 are really closer, I guess x265 still has to improve more at low crf values
[09-29, 20:49] <x265
> of course, is not a general rule, just some sample videos happen to result that way when encoded
[09-29, 20:47] <x265
> what i meant (example): 1080p, x265 ~400kbps, x264 ~1000kbps, same quality
[09-29, 20:45] <vivan
> what you claimed was "x265 has the same quality as x264 at 2x/3x/whatever lower bitrate", which is wrong because you did your comparation wrong.
[09-29, 20:44] <vivan
> you know, "less size at lower bitrate" is what simple math gives
[09-29, 20:43] <vivan
> you know,
[09-29, 20:32] <x265
> vivan, I just claimed that x265 was giving less size than x264 at low-bitrate, which was true in several short videos (just luck? maybe), now I'm just testing with the big deal, full episodes at 1080p
[09-29, 20:32] <HerbalNekoTea
> What do you recommand for playing sid file ? I just want to ditch my C64 for my music. wwwww
[09-29, 20:27] <aceCaptainSlow
> I'll try foobar. I had winamp before, but it crashed constantly.
[09-29, 20:27] <vivan
> x265, it's not how to make a "proffesional" comparation, it's just how to make it not wrong. You can do the fuck you want, but if you're doing it wrong - you can't claim anything (like you were doing all this time).
[09-29, 20:26] <Varshnyar
> Try foobar2000 or KMP. Even WMP is better than VLC.
[09-29, 20:24] <sarachikorita
> For music use a music player, for videos use a video player...
[09-29, 20:22] <aceCaptainSlow
> Giving it a try. Does anyone know how well it shuffles music? VLC can't do that for shit.
[09-29, 20:22] <NoobSubs
> VLC is as good as the shit stain left on the toilet paper after you wipe your ass.
[09-29, 20:20] <Varshnyar
> MPC in Windows, MPV in Linux. Most fansub and encoder groups recommends them.
[09-29, 20:20] <NoobSubs
> I'd use Media Player Classic Home Cinema.
[09-29, 20:18] <aceCaptainSlow
> So what is the generally recommended player for anime?
[09-29, 20:17] <x265
> MPV is not hard though, thanks again Varshnyar
[09-29, 20:11] <x265
> Thx for the reading vivan, it's obvious I can't perform a professional codec comparation, I'm just testing for fun by myself
[09-29, 20:07] <Kusochibi
> Hello! I'm looking for a "Gunslinger Girl - Il Teatrino" pack (it's the season 2) which has seeders and is not a blu-ray version (my computer is getting old and lag when I try to play huge files... and my connection is in morse code -_-")
[09-29, 20:06] <vivan
> x265, read this
if you want to cure your retardness.
[09-29, 20:00] <x265
> I'm just testing settings, when I'm sure I've found the best, I'll encode from RAW, in the meantime, keep testing
[09-29, 19:58] <herkz
> are you really shocked, TRVE
[09-29, 19:52] <x265
> I would have to test with the RAW at this rate xD
[09-29, 19:51] <x265
> When I attach a URL, the message doesn't appear. It is only me?
[09-29, 19:50] <[TRVE]
> Oh wow, so you didn't encode from the BD.
[09-29, 19:50] <[TRVE]
> >finally some screenshots
[09-29, 19:49] <x265
> It seems, crf=14 with slow is enough to spot no difference between x265 and original
[09-29, 19:42] <DistantThunder
> oops, I read MPV instead of MPC, which nullifies my request
[09-29, 19:40] <DistantThunder
> Varshnyar, what is madVR ? I use MPV (though it can't vsync properly and FFMPEG libs) on Linux
[09-29, 19:35] <vivan
> FFDshow died 2 years ago, LAV is new ffdshow
[09-29, 19:35] <x265
> I'll post the screenshots soon, I am trying different crf values to catch the x264 equivalent
[09-29, 19:23] <NoobSubs
> Doesn't everyone use FFDshow? Why do I keep hearing about the Combine Communist Codec Pack?
[09-29, 19:21] <x265
> Gonna try mpv then, thanks
[09-29, 19:19] <OnDeed
> such "losses" would generally be due to rendering, you might have wrongly set levels or something like that. Or postprocessing enabled... If properly set-up, there should only be very small differences to how stuff looks in different players
[09-29, 19:19] <x265
> I'm going to make some different encodings with that scene, from crf 10 to 20, and from medium to veryslow, to find the best parameters
[09-29, 19:18] <NoobSubs
> Rule of thumb: Never use VLC unless you want shit.
[09-29, 19:18] <x265
> Well, I use linux for encoding (all I have here is VLC and ffplay), so I can't use that now, sorry
[09-29, 19:16] <Nyaa
> TL;DR Don't use VLC.
[09-29, 19:14] <Varshnyar
> I notice grain lose with VLC. It feels like washed watercolors
[09-29, 19:12] <OnDeed
> I wouldn't say that it "always kills important details"
[09-29, 19:11] <OnDeed
> note that the effect shouldn't be *too* significant
[09-29, 19:10] <OnDeed
> vlc used to ahve issues that it aliased chroma (and perhaps had other issues - like chorma placement, colormatrix - because it uses swscale for screenshtotting and swscale is just bad)
[09-29, 19:09] <Varshnyar
> VLC always kills important details. Better use MPC+LAV+madVR to get the best quality
[09-29, 19:06] <x265
> VLC also lossy? It has the latest decoder version
[09-29, 19:01] <NoobSubs
> Use PNG. jpg adds artifacts because it's lossy. PNG = Lossless, jpg = Lossy.
[09-29, 19:00] <Bobezlol
> you cant use imgur to compare encodes
[09-29, 18:58] <x265
> x264 original: http://i.imgur.com/xxFjR3j.jpg, x265 fast: http://i.imgur.com/did4ISf.jpg, x265 veryslow: http://i.imgur.com/xYxUw1T.jpg
[09-29, 18:56] <x265
> I will upload the images now, veryslow is better than faster, but still needs more bitrate (crf=21 may not be enough)
[09-29, 18:50] <x265
> Yeah, I have tried with Baccano! and Jojo's Bizarre Adventures, happy to have more anime to test
[09-29, 18:48] <Varshnyar
> Nichijou has a very simple animation with few action scenes and gradients. You should try with a different anime like Witchcraft Works or Psycho-Pass
[09-29, 18:47] <The_Truth
> u make shame for the people that put effort into making x265 a more efficient encoder compared to x264