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Name:[Alpha-Numbers] Whirlwind! Iron Leaguer - 02 [48A732DB].mkvDate:2012-11-15, 05:05 UTC
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[Omnicat] <Nyaa> We will of course be playing Star Citizen. If you have a game package, you can join our subversion efforts right here. See you in the 'verse!
[09-30, 22:59] <x265> Why nyaa should be https? I mean, no personal data involved...
[09-30, 22:58] <SneakiestNEG> If I had a euro for every time someone asked why it is called the 25th anniversary! Any decent extras?
[09-30, 22:55] <SneakiestNEG> Weird nyaa is not https. Never noticed that.
[09-30, 22:50] <SneakiestNEG> I am incredibly old skool Just get mp4, throw it on a flash drive and stick it in a smart tv. Sure tv's are not the best media players but it is good enough.
[09-30, 22:29] <x265> @lotusgg I think I've found a set of better parameters for anime, aq-strength=2 is even better, I'll upload same episode with new settings, to compare
[09-30, 22:22] <OKanime Team> ops, sorry for the spam ><
[09-30, 22:22] <OKanime Team> any news about Tokyo Ghoul's BD? -_-
[09-30, 22:21] <OKanime Team> any news about Tokyo Ghoul's BD? -_-
[09-30, 21:41] <lotusgg> because of CTUs size. Anime is mostly flat textures.
[09-30, 21:23] <x265> x265 is very good with edge-detection (if anime is simple, that is good), but modern anime has a lot of lighting, shading... effects, and that's a problem
[09-30, 21:18] <[TRVE]> Who gave you that idea?
[09-30, 21:17] <lotusgg> In case of x265, anime is the best scenario.
[09-30, 21:08] <OneCrazyRussian> Just make all video into keyframe-jpgs and make user to SVP that shit realtime
[09-30, 21:07] <OnDeed> *x264 beats
[09-30, 21:07] <OnDeed> 1) those numbers are more like "best case scenario, maybe, we hope at least" 2) it of course depends on the source and varies all the time 3) hhevc encoders aren't as mature so x264 (h.264) betas them by better utilization of the older format
[09-30, 21:05] <OnDeed> "x265 could half-size it or even double-quality it for the same size" --- no. I know that "50% better" is the usual media story for H.265, but compression simply doesn't work like that
[09-30, 21:00] <herkz> best size/quality ratio is smallest you can make it while making the encode transparent to the source
[09-30, 20:54] <lotusgg> anime blurays are usually 1gb+, when not 2gb. x265 could half-size it or even double-quality it for the same size.
[09-30, 20:49] <Prazision> I'd rather have a larger file that doesn't look like shit, tbh.
[09-30, 20:48] <aceCaptainSlow> Is this argument still going? XD
[09-30, 20:46] <sarachikorita> Well, you could do this: mux the video and audio into M2TS or MKV, and add PGS subtitles.
[09-30, 20:44] <xell17> Oh god, the new GitS 25th anniversary blu-ray is just as shitty as the old one. What a bummer.
[09-30, 20:42] <kandenshi> [TransportSubs]
[09-30, 20:38] <x265> I'm trying to encode the best I can, but targeting for best size/quality, not best quality
[09-30, 20:35] <NoobSubs> Not all re-encodes are shit.
[09-30, 20:34] <lotusgg> so why no crf0 the shit out?
[09-30, 20:29] <crf> You (probably) can't do typesetting with transport streams.
[09-30, 20:27] <lotusgg> why not sub into transport streams?
[09-30, 20:23] <crf> Stop comparing re-encodes. They'll look like shit anyway.
[09-30, 20:20] <OnDeed> (unless I musunderstood something)
[09-30, 20:19] <OnDeed> well, he is just going to be another re-encoding group anyway, so why discuss it to this degree. Those obviously don'T really care about how the stuff looks
[09-30, 20:19] <lotusgg> I'm pretty sure you just hate.
[09-30, 20:15] <herkz> i'm pretty sure you're just blind
[09-30, 20:14] <x265> I aiming to crf=21 with x265, which makes ~50% less size usually, and if you need to pause on flashing frames to tell difference, that would be "acceptable" for me
[09-30, 20:08] <lotusgg> even zero-raws use crf16~19
[09-30, 20:08] <lotusgg> <herkz> yes, and i'm saying that is far below "acceptable" >crf21
[09-30, 20:03] <OnDeed> <atikabubu> wait for daiz to pop out of the devil's ass and introduce something among the lines of x265 Hi444p --- why, that obviously exists, already. There is a 10bit profile for HEVC too.
[09-30, 19:52] <herkz> yes, and i'm saying that is far below "acceptable"
[09-30, 19:49] <atikabubu> 4K anime? tell me more, John Titor
[09-30, 19:47] <HerbalNekoTea> We need 4K anime before we really need to compare those encoding, i guess some of those encode will not be compatible with 4K. wwwww
[09-30, 19:46] <Senfu> .flv best format period /s
[09-30, 19:40] <atikabubu> wait for daiz to pop out of the devil's ass and introduce something among the lines of x265 Hi444p
[09-30, 19:38] <NoobSubs> x265 will conquer the world someday herkz.
[09-30, 19:21] <x265> Yeah, I know it has problems, crf=21, what did you expect? I'm just testing low bitrate, to get "acceptable" quailty
[09-30, 19:17] <herkz> all of your comparisons look fucking horrible holy shit are you blind
[09-30, 19:16] <OnDeed> "<x265> http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/93740 Watch this, this x265 encoding is ~40% lighter than original" -- you got some ugly blocking and banding there...
[09-30, 19:12] <x265> http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/93743 Both are x265, just to compare how parameters really matters
[09-30, 19:12] <deanzel> Who cares about how x265 encodes and displays animu. I'm more concerned with how my favorite Chinese cartoons will look. I need that proof before I am convinced about x265.
[09-30, 19:10] <lotusgg> try aq-strenght 1.5
[09-30, 19:08] <x265> @HerbalNekoTea,yeah, testing the x265 parameters to find the best for anime, some people here has been really helpful
[09-30, 19:05] <jofs> This
[09-30, 19:05] <x265> So, light is way smoother, but the edge-detection (look at the squares in her skirt) is messed up
[09-30, 19:04] <HerbalNekoTea> Common, you are still arguing about encode... I think you was arguing for the last 48h...
[09-30, 19:02] <x265> (Subs does not appear in one of them because is skipped just in the frame xD)
[09-30, 19:01] <x265> http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/93740 Watch this, this x265 encoding is ~40% lighter than original
[09-30, 18:58] <lotusgg> -2:-2 would be a great for holding up to all details that psy washes.
[09-30, 18:57] <lotusgg> I wish there were cabac deblocking
[09-30, 18:49] <x265> I've tried those values, fading is way smoother, even with crf=21; so this means more testing to do, I hope is worth it
[09-30, 18:47] <lotusgg> and psy-rd/oq in x265 is not the same as in x264.
[09-30, 18:46] <lotusgg> aq1 will not work as good as it does for x265 in x264
[09-30, 18:38] <x265> I see, I'll try psy 0 values and aq-mode 1 (all presets use 0 or 2, don't know why)
[09-30, 18:34] <hazardous> but everyone using psy between 0.60-90
[09-30, 18:22] <lotusgg> also aq-mode 1 produced less artifacs at +-1000kbit/s
[09-30, 18:22] <lotusgg> with x265, try psy-rd and rdoq at 0
[09-30, 18:22] <lotusgg> it just fuck with the grain, also producing aliased edges
[09-30, 18:21] <lotusgg> psy is bad for anime.
[09-30, 18:06] <x265> I hope UHD 10-bit monitors/TV drops their price soon...
[09-30, 18:00] <nitekatt> Large TVs are awesome for watching stuff.
[09-30, 17:48] <[TRVE]> I am quite fond of my tablet. Fuck large, expensive, clunky TVs.
[09-30, 17:21] <x265> Indeed, mobile devices are not the best for playing that video, but playing 720p ~3000kbps 8-bit is good enough to kill boredom out of home
[09-30, 17:09] <atikabubu> not to mention that 10 bit encodes simply rape your phones battery
[09-30, 17:07] <SneakiestNEG> Watching on a phone defeats the purpose of downloading a 30Gb BD rip lol
[09-30, 17:07] <atikabubu> i have a 37" HD Ready PDP and fuck watching on anything else
[09-30, 17:07] <x265> Watching anime on a 10" while traveling, or something like that, is not a bad idea. Of course is better at home with my 24" screen, but that isn't very "portable"
[09-30, 17:05] <atikabubu> or you can watch anime like a baws on something 32+ inches
[09-30, 16:52] <hazardous> gotta have tailor enlarge our pocket sizes then :p
[09-30, 16:47] <OneCrazyRussian> Because in 4 years there's gonna be 22inch Iphone 22+ and his Samsung 23" clone
[09-30, 16:38] <NoobSubs> Why watch anything on a 3 inch phone when you can use a 22 inch pc?
[09-30, 16:13] <Hoshizora> MX Player is by far the best Android player.
[09-30, 16:11] <herkz> well obviously you can't use CCCP on linux so i didn't mean that
[09-30, 15:26] <x265> H/W rendering is way smoother than VLC or default video player, really amazing
[09-30, 15:23] <x265> Gonna try, thanks
[09-30, 15:20] <[TRVE]> MX Player.
[09-30, 15:13] <x265> Simple question: best Android video player? I've using VLC, which is better than default player (something easy to achieve)
[09-30, 15:09] <x265> For example, Linux Mint, provides VLC already installed (nothing easier to install than that), at least MPV is also very easy to install
[09-30, 15:05] <herkz> probably because the devs are bad. also, CCCP is even easier to install than VLC, so that's a pretty bad argument.
[09-30, 14:59] <x265> Which makes me think, why VLC doesn't improve the rendering? Is a big, long-term, even default player in some Linux dist. player
[09-30, 14:58] <shaddrag> I remember the days when VLC was considered elitist...my, how times and opinions have changed.
[09-30, 14:57] <x265> Although, if don't know the better alternatives, VLC becomes the best option you know about (recently, that was my case)
[09-30, 14:55] <x265> Well, VLC is well known and popular, an easy solution to play almost any kind of media file. But that doesn't mean is the best.
[09-30, 13:58] <jofs> @sillybean: But why use VLC at all when there is better alternatives? I don't get it.
[09-30, 13:48] <OneCrazyRussian> It's because your VLC didn't even render them properly
[09-30, 13:41] <sillybean> @hazardous : but those rains pixels that u mentioned never happens when i'm watching anime with VLC
[09-30, 08:57] <atikabubu> where the hell is the Sabagebu ED Single...
[09-30, 07:55] <OneCrazyRussian> Now everyone shut up and enjoy Space Dandy end.
[09-30, 07:45] <[TRVE]> I remux DVDISOs and watch everything with mpv (or MPC, depending on which computer I use).
[09-30, 07:44] <txtsd> I've been running archlinux for more than a month now, and I miss mpc-hc more than anything :/
[09-30, 07:35] <sarachikorita> Disclaimer: I use mplayer2 as my main player, mpv as my second player, and mplayer1 as my DVDISO handler on Windows. (mplayer2 and mpv share a common bug on Windows regarding DVD filesystems; mplayer1 doesn't have this bug, and it isn't an issue on Linux.)
[09-30, 06:32] <txtsd> thanks @sarachikorita