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English-translated Anime[V-A] Gantz UncutDL5.24 GiB00612662
Raw LiteratureRaw Manga xxxHOLiC Vol.1 - 10DL344.5 MiB10104680
English-translated AnimeVision of EscaflowneDL5.67 GiB10167221
English-translated LiteratureInitial D MangaDL1.06 GiB1064250
Lossy Audiomelody. - sincerelyDL141 MiBStatus unknown5930
Raw AnimeKatekyo Hitman Reborn 7 (RAW)DL187.7 MiBStatus unknown4070
English-translated Literature[Townsocks] School Rumble 209, b47.zipDL3.2 MiBStatus unknown75560
Raw Literature[Raw-Manga] Naruto 340(lq)DL3.6 MiB0039640
English-translated Literature[Townsocks] School Rumble 211.zipDL1.8 MiBStatus unknown75970
Raw Literature[Raw-Manga] Gantz 244(lq)DL2.8 MiB0024920
Raw Literature[Raw-Manga] Bleach 262(lq)DL5.8 MiBStatus unknown3530
Raw Literature[Raw-Manga] ToLoveRu 39(lq)DL6 MiBStatus unknown4760
Raw Literature[Raw-Manga] D.Gray-Man 107(lq)DL6.6 MiBStatus unknown1770
Raw Literature[Raw-Manga] Saint Seiya The Lost Canvas 23DL5.4 MiBStatus unknown4590
English-translated Anime[Ayako]_Shuffle!_Memories_05_[0F766D2E].mkvDL104.2 MiBStatus unknown2120
Raw Literature[Raw-Manga] Hajime no Ippo 762(lq)DL2.9 MiB009190
English-translated LiteratureFullMetal Alchemist 68 MQ TMI-SpeedDL12.2 MiB0027970
English-translated LiteratureHayate the Combat Butler v05c49 [Musashi]DL2.7 MiB0027990
Raw Literature[Raw-Manga] Naruto 342(lq)DL3.1 MiBStatus unknown1890
Raw Literature[Raw-Manga] One Piece 445(lq)DL10.1 MiBStatus unknown1700
Raw Literature[Raw-Manga] Addicted to Curry v23DL51.2 MiBStatus unknown2030
Raw Literature[RAW] Yotsubato! Volumes 01-06DL271 MiB40253491
Raw Literature[Raw-Manga] D.Gray-Man 108DL8.2 MiBStatus unknown1650
Raw Literature[Raw-Manga] Negima Neo 5DL13.7 MiBStatus unknown2360
Raw Literature[Raw-Manga] ToLoveRu 40(lq)DL6.4 MiBStatus unknown4650
Raw Literature[Raw-Manga] Hajime no Ippo 763(lq)DL2.7 MiBStatus unknown1680
Raw Literature[Raw-Manga] Me~teru no Kimochi v1DL56.7 MiBStatus unknown1780
English-translated LiteratureNaruto_ch432_mq-[A-J Scans]DL3.4 MiB0019410
Raw Literature[Raw-Manga] Tenjo Tenge 102DL11.9 MiBStatus unknown1550
English-translated Anime[NyaaTorrents] Onegai Teacher vol 1 [DVD-ISO]DL4.36 GiB1013812
Raw Literature[Raw-Manga] Naruto 343(lq)DL7 MiBStatus unknown1640
Raw Literature[Raw-Manga] Bastard 14DL7.7 MiBStatus unknown6840
Raw Literature[Raw-Manga] Bleach 264(lq)DL3.2 MiBStatus unknown1520
Raw Literature[Raw-Manga] ToLoveRu 41(lq)DL4.4 MiBStatus unknown4490
Raw Literature[Raw-Manga] D.Gray-Man 109(lq)DL4.8 MiBStatus unknown1590
Raw Literature[Raw-Manga] Hajime no Ippo 764(lq)DL2.4 MiBStatus unknown1580
Raw Literature[Raw-Manga] Bleach v25DL53.2 MiBStatus unknown29760
Raw Literature[Raw-Manga] Gantz 245(lq)DL15.3 MiBStatus unknown1620
Raw AnimeDEATH NOTE 20 [1024x576 x264+AAC ?????? 22m45s D-NTV].mkvDL136.8 MiB007020
English-translated AnimeThe Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya NBS ENG subDL39.8 MiB0061790
Raw AnimeBLEACH 117 [640x480 x264+AAC ?????? 24m15s D-TX]DL132.5 MiB005310
English-translated LiteratureHayate the Combat Butler v05c50 [Musashi]DL2.9 MiB0027730
Raw Anime[TV-JAPAN][RAW] Nana Ep 43 (640x360 DivX5.11)DL153.5 MiB004530
Lossy Audio[Haruhiism UK] The Remixes of Haruhi SuzumiyaDL19.4 MiBStatus unknown2120
Raw Literature[Raw-Manga] One Piece 447(lq)DL9.5 MiBStatus unknown1570
English-translated Literature[MU] XS Volume 01DL66 MiB0037720
Raw Literature[Raw-Manga] 21st Century Boys 7DL6.1 MiBStatus unknown1860
Raw Literature[Raw-Manga] Naruto 344(lq)DL3.3 MiBStatus unknown1870
Raw Literature[Raw-Manga] ToLoveRu 42(lq)DL5 MiBStatus unknown4440
Raw Literature[Raw-Manga] Shonen Jump(2007-14)DL262 MiBStatus unknown43460
English-translated Literature666satan 65 TMI-Speed zipDL9.7 MiB0022410
English-translated Literature[Wild fang project] BAKI The search of our strongest hero book 9DL45.8 MiB0018830
Raw AnimeTV-JAPAN][RAW] Nana 44 [1024x576 x264+AACDL131.5 MiB004830
Raw Literature[Raw-Manga] Bleach 266(lq)DL18.7 MiBStatus unknown1530
Raw Literature[Raw-Manga] One Piece 448(lq)DL17.1 MiBStatus unknown1500
Raw Literature[Raw-Manga] D.Gray-Man 110(lq)DL17 MiBStatus unknown10320
Raw Anime[TV-JAPAN][RAW] Nodame cantabile 9 (1280x720 XviD).aviDL332.5 MiB009020
Raw Literature[Raw-Manga] Hajime no Ippo 765(lq)DL2 MiBStatus unknown1580
Raw Literature[Raw-Manga] ToLoveRu 43(lq)DL7.7 MiBStatus unknown4410
Raw Literature[Raw-Manga] Shonen Jump(2007-15)DL202.5 MiBStatus unknown41970
Raw Literature[Raw-Manga] Gantz 246(lq)DL8.7 MiBStatus unknown1530
Raw Anime[TV-Japan] Les Miserables -Shoujo Cosette- 10 RAW (1280x720 DivX6xx)DL201.5 MiB005190
Raw Literature[Raw-Manga] School Rumble 216(hq)DL3.5 MiBStatus unknown1490
Raw Anime[TV-JAPAN] Naruto Shippuuden 05 RAW [640x480 x264+AAC 23m05s D-TX]DL125.1 MiB007071
Raw Anime[TV-JAPAN][RAW] Kanon 24 [1280x720 x264+AAC 24m10s BS-i].mkvDL201.3 MiB006300
Raw Literature[Raw-Manga] Bleach 267(lq)DL2.1 MiBStatus unknown1420
Raw Literature[Raw-Manga] D.Gray-Man 111(lq)DL2.1 MiBStatus unknown1450
Raw Literature[Raw-Manga] ToLoveRu 44(lq)DL11.8 MiBStatus unknown4410
Raw Literature[Raw-Manga] Shonen Jump(2007-16)DL93.4 MiBStatus unknown1730
Raw Anime[TV-JAPAN][RAW] One Piece 301 [D-CX 1280x720 WMV9 24fps].aviDL422.2 MiB0046130
English-translated AnimeGedo Senki - Tales from Earthsea - English subDL128 KiBStatus unknown3010
Raw Literature[Raw-Manga] Negima Neo 6DL15 MiBStatus unknown9370
Raw Literature[Raw-Manga] Hajime no Ippo 766DL7.8 MiBStatus unknown1550
Raw Anime[TV-JAPAN][RAW] DEATH NOTE story.23 [1024x576 h264+AAC 22m50s].mkvDL168 MiB007500
English-translated LiteratureGantz_ch243[Illuminati-Manga]DL6.7 MiB0013850
Raw Literature[Raw-Manga] Naruto 347(lq)DL3.4 MiBStatus unknown1480
Raw Anime[TV-JAPAN][RAW] Nana 46 [1024x576 x264+AAC 22m15s].mkvDL114.6 MiB006490
English-translated LiteratureLove&Collage v05c41 [Musashi]DL5.7 MiB0035950
Raw Literature[Raw-Manga] D.Gray-Man 112(lq)DL17.5 MiBStatus unknown1470
Raw Literature[Raw-Manga] ToLoveRu 45DL6.2 MiBStatus unknown4650
Raw Literature[Raw-Manga] Hajime no Ippo 767(lq)DL2.7 MiBStatus unknown1560
English-translated LiteratureFMA69 MQ TMI-SpeedDL12 MiB0014710
Raw Literature[Raw-Manga] Shonen Jump(2007-17)DL113.9 MiBStatus unknown35210
Raw Anime[TV-JAPAN][RAW] D. Gray-man 25 [1024x576 h264+AAC 22m50s D-TX].mkv.DL127.9 MiB003230
English-translated LiteratureHayate the Combat Butler v05c51 [Musashi]DL3 MiB0025910
Live Action Promotional VideoLia - Light in the AirDL63.4 MiBStatus unknown1730
Raw Anime[TV-JAPAN][RAW] DEATH NOTE 24 [1024x576 h264+AAC 22m45s D-NTV].mkv.DL168.7 MiB007730
Raw Literature[Raw-Manga] One Piece 450DL15.6 MiBStatus unknown1550
English-translated Anime[NyaaTorrents] Onegai Teacher vol 2 [DVD-ISO]DL3.73 GiB1013033
Raw Literature[Raw-Manga] Bleach 269(lq)DL18.8 MiBStatus unknown1420
Raw Literature[Raw-Manga] Bastard 15DL8.7 MiBStatus unknown7230
Raw Literature[Raw-Manga] Hajime no Ippo 768(lq)DL2.6 MiBStatus unknown2650
English-translated LiteratureAirgear_v16_c137[SF]DL7.6 MiB0072110
Raw Literature[Raw-Manga] Shonen Jump(2007-18)DL124.9 MiBStatus unknown2830
Raw Anime[TV-JAPAN] Les Miserables -Shoujo Cosette- 13 RAW (1280x720 DivX6xx)DL188.8 MiB0010240
Raw Literature[Raw-Manga] Karin v11DL40.2 MiBStatus unknown6210
English-translated LiteratureAirgear_v16_c138[SF]DL4.4 MiB0066160
English-translated LiteratureClaymore v1-6DL313 MiBStatus unknown12230
Raw Literature[Raw-Manga] Fullmetal Alchemist v16DL47.5 MiBStatus unknown27170
Raw Literature[Raw-Manga] One Piece 451(lq)DL15.6 MiBStatus unknown2670
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[Omnicat] <Nyaa> We will of course be playing Star Citizen. If you have a game package, you can join our subversion efforts right here. See you in the 'verse!
[12-23, 05:00] <Rail-kun> dragon*
[12-23, 05:00] <ravenleaf182> Ah its almost christmas. this is relevant.
[12-23, 05:00] <Rail-kun> any balls today? deagon ball I mean. Kai.
[12-23, 04:58] <ravenleaf182> is that beaker singing carol of the bells?
[12-23, 04:48] <deadfish979> me!me!me!, best song in existence.
[12-23, 03:16] <Artemix> this is a nice gif/video: http://thepiratebay.se/
[12-23, 03:09] <MCR75> @kas88888 It's probably because there are no official subbers like crunchyroll or funimation doing it, so it has to be fansubbed, which takes time and effort.
[12-23, 02:28] <herkz> indeed
[12-23, 02:19] <xell17> Well, it should be obvious why no one really cares about it.
[12-23, 02:10] <digitalenigma> sorry. seikoku no dragonar
[12-23, 02:01] <xell17> what anime are you even talking about?
[12-23, 02:00] <digitalenigma> fansubber is dead. all other languages are up to vol. 5. english up to vol. 2 Now only one fansubber is doing this anime. However, they appear to be "busy with life", and therefore have not begun to finish off the series. All volumes of this anime are available as raws. No one seems to want to sub this anime.
[12-23, 01:59] <Stinky Cheez> Blankets are a bit more reliable.
[12-23, 01:27] <xell17> I'm actually homeless. The only thing that keeps me warm at night is loli rape.
[12-23, 01:20] <paulo27ms> twist: he has 2
[12-23, 01:09] <TheM4gicMan> You already are home, xell17.
[12-23, 00:45] <xell17> Screw you, guys. I'm going home.
[12-23, 00:08] <NoobSubs> I believe in you.
[12-22, 23:47] <NoobSubs> @xell17 Jerk off to Kill la Kill. It may be hard but if you try with Kiryuin Satsuki's mom, I'm sure you could pull it off.
[12-22, 23:24] <nataku411> The chosen one.
[12-22, 23:21] <[TRVE]> secretly
[12-22, 23:19] <xell17> am
[12-22, 23:15] <paulo27ms> that I
[12-22, 23:12] <nataku411> You all don't know
[12-22, 23:05] <OnDeed> @sephirotic: it is hardly anti-pirate meassure, since 1) it is so easy to remove or even ignore (just let it starve your encode... it doesn't fight back in any way) and more importantly 2) so little people care about video fidelity/quality that it is hard to imagine anybody would think of hard to compress grain as any sort of deterrent. This is a world where such video quality is normal to most people.
[12-22, 22:43] <xell17> Yeah, read some Narutaru and jerk off to it.
[12-22, 22:38] <paulo27ms> In other words, don't watch KLK
[12-22, 22:34] <herkz> the grain in klk was added to give your eyes something to look at because the lineart is so low res.
[12-22, 22:10] <[TRVE]> Or any other bad things that can happen with upscales.
[12-22, 22:09] <[TRVE]> Now think again and you'll come to the realization that maybe the grain was added to prevent banding.
[12-22, 22:09] <[TRVE]> >its obviously mastered at a low resolution
[12-22, 22:08] <sephirotic> @OnDeed May be an artistic choice, but I'm not so sure it's not an anti-piracy strategy. Anyway, since KLK has a "flat style" and its obviously mastered at a low resolution I think it's worth denoising it to save space. Heck, I could always add grain in ffdshow if I feel like it.
[12-22, 22:08] <kas8888> why is a great anime like "Nanatsu no taizai" always subbes 2 days after it has bee released?
[12-22, 22:05] <sephirotic> Not really weird if you stop to think that the BD-R format has been developed and standardized by both panasonic and Sony.
[12-22, 22:04] <NoobSubs> That's really weird because they had the best DVD media especially the DVD+R DLs.
[12-22, 21:54] <OnDeed> sephirotic: it is not necessarily stupid. It is simply an artistic choice. For example see all the noise in Mardock... there are some studies that suggest that human brain finds dirty, grainy images more real than clean, especially digital-clean footage
[12-22, 21:49] <sephirotic> Maxwell = Ritek
[12-22, 21:48] <sephirotic> I used to enjoy old full analogic cell animation and it's natural grain, but Grain added on post on digital anime is stupid. I'd rather get a degrained smaller version. Hell if I really want grain I could always add it on ffdshow anyway.
[12-22, 21:47] <sephirotic> @noobsubs Yes, take a look here: http://club.myce.com/f33/french-study-bd-r-archival-329441/
[12-22, 21:45] <[TRVE]> Apparently it depends on the manufacturing country. Indian Verbatim is shit and Singaporean isn't or something like that.
[12-22, 21:45] <NoobSubs> Do they even sell BD-Rs?
[12-22, 21:44] <NoobSubs> Impossible.
[12-22, 21:43] <NoobSubs> Coldhell's the best version because it's Whole Grain.
[12-22, 21:43] <sephirotic> Panasonic is actually better than Verbatin.
[12-22, 21:41] <xell17> I don't care about 10 more gb. Coldhell is reliable and ohys is not. It's as simple as that.
[12-22, 21:39] <NoobSubs> Only use Verbatim.
[12-22, 21:36] <sephirotic> There are some shitty brands that have started to show wheatering singns on the borders, like Ritek, Lg's and first generation Phillips discs, but even so, they sitll read fine. I think i only stumbled on 4 discs so far of over 50 of the oldests one (8yo) that had any corrupted data.
[12-22, 21:34] <sephirotic> I've been researching a lot in the last months for options of long therm storage + backup and decided to have a mixed of HD + BD. I have about 400 DVD-Rs of old animes that are getting old and I decided that is time for copying the oldests dvd back to my hds. But most of my hd's are already full and it'll be too expensive to buy a couple of new hds now so I opted for BD-R. Most of my old DVD's are 7~8 years old and are still working so yeah, for me at least, they have been pretty reliable, even the shitty Ritek one's.
[12-22, 21:29] <[TRVE]> Are you sure that optical discs are better for you or do you just want to play it on your standalone player?
[12-22, 21:18] <sephirotic> CH is overly bloated. I'd rather stick with Ohys-raw, at least I can fit in a single layer BD-R.
[12-22, 21:15] <xell17> I'd go with coldhell's version for KLK.
[12-22, 21:11] <opabato9000> fff's really slow lately, they got some huge bd backlog... they were just taking too many shows at once and saying we'll do bd for this, this, this, this one too lol
[12-22, 21:09] <jofs> fail. lel
[12-22, 21:09] <jofs> [LARGE=#9900999]Beer, Thank you.[/LARGE]
[12-22, 21:06] <chon1314> is [romantisme] = [subsmith]? sorry accidentally hit enter
[12-22, 21:06] <sephirotic> I agree most leechers probably never even comment in the single torrents, then I wonder if the stupidity is of the uploaders for listening for the vocal minority. And this stupid vocal minority is actually pretty common, just today I was trying to download KLK's bd rip and was trying to find some smaller torrents and I stumpled with one of those idiots in the FFF's release: tid=557421 By the way, isn´t FFF going to do the rest of KLK? I'm downloading Ohys-raws and is slow as hell.
[12-22, 21:05] <chon1314> is [romantisme
[12-22, 20:49] <herkz> i would be impressed if there was 300 people complaining about no flac. the problem is regardless of what the leechers "want", it's actually only a vocal minority.
[12-22, 20:43] <NoobSubs> I like FLAC for archiving proposes and because I can transcode from lossless > lossy instead of lossy > lossy but I guess if you download a lot of Coalgirls, you start to realize how ridicules it is to have a 3GB audio stream for a 2 hour Evangelion movie. It's literally the size of some 720p encodes so I get your point.
[12-22, 20:43] <sephirotic> I think it's Pink Pineapple.
[12-22, 20:38] <NebulaNine> Could anyone tell me the producers/animators of Fela Pure?
[12-22, 20:33] <opabato9000> because 90% of people (probably more) will not HEAR the difference between high bitrate aac (hell, mp3 too) and a flac
[12-22, 20:32] <opabato9000> just "normal" 16-bit flac is crazy for anme encodes, let alone the insane 24-bit
[12-22, 20:28] <OnDeed> why? We rip old stuff that hardly anyone wants in the first place. If we get 1000 downloads of something instead of 640, it sorta improves our mood
[12-22, 20:26] <sephirotic> You uploaders should unite and educate your leechers.
[12-22, 20:26] <herkz> caring about what leechers want is dumber than using flac
[12-22, 20:05] <OnDeed> sadly a large part of leechers will look at you down unless you have flac, so even we started to move to that (for BDs)
[12-22, 20:04] <OnDeed> "it's utterly nonsensical when it comes to anime storage since the video itself already is a lossy transcode" <<<< much, much this
[12-22, 20:03] <sephirotic> @NoobSubs Acutally the reason of my rant was that I had just finished shaving off a whooping 100gb of useless audio data from FLAC audio of animes I Downloaded in the last month. Fucking 100gb. Note that 4 of these 10hds are for backup, so these 100gb actually turn out to be 200gb of used space.
[12-22, 19:55] <MCR75> FAVAROOOOOOOOOO
[12-22, 19:37] <kotuwa> any power user here 9now)?
[12-22, 18:46] <NoobSubs> @[TRVE] I meant for music library.
[12-22, 18:43] <NoobSubs> @sephirotic Because you have 10 Hard drives! Might as well use an extra 8GB out of your million GB and go all the way.
[12-22, 18:43] <NoobSubs> I agree. FUCK THE FUCKING CLOUD. I'd like to listen to music without having some fagget companie(s)/corporation data mine my music library or my files.
[12-22, 18:41] <sarachikorita> Well, some DVDs do too (e.g., Lyrical Nanoha)
[12-22, 18:40] <sarachikorita> Some BluRays have lossless audio, but it's still daft imo.
[12-22, 18:36] <sephirotic> Also Is worth noting that I originally brought this topic in regard to FLAC audio in ANIME ENCODES. While lossless may have some appeal for archival in those favourite music-albums you have, it's utterly nonsensical when it comes to anime storage since the video itself already is a lossy transcode. A couple of 13 episodes series with Stereo 24 bits FLAC may have a whopping 5gb of useless audio data that makes no sense in future-proofing for a eventual reencode. Who the fuck would need to reencode an already worldwide compatible and efficient format like AAC for the soundtrack of a video in the near future? No one!
[12-22, 18:30] <sephirotic> @NoobSubs google the therm "audio-transparency". What is the point of having wasted bytes on something you won´t perceive any difference in? And I also totally sencond dilworks. I don´t live in US or Europe so I have limited signal and bandwidht and I don´t trust the fucking cloud either.
[12-22, 18:12] <[TRVE]> And of course there are movies on cellphones which need to have as small a filesize as possible.
[12-22, 18:09] <[TRVE]> The point of low bitrate, NoobSubs, lies in low-bandwidth environments such as phone calls, ringtones, music boxes etc. It's not so much about pop music, it's about phones and plastic toys not sounding like ass.
[12-22, 18:07] <dilworks> But then, any half-decent media player/manager should do on-the-fly transcoding when moving songs between PC/device, so...
[12-22, 18:06] <dilworks> So you won't be streaming your 320K collection to your Galaxy/iThing/chinese-shitphone anytime soon.
[12-22, 18:05] <dilworks> As for cellphones, the trend is to do away with expandable memory (because lolApple), and move everything to "the cloud™", despite the fact 80% of the world lacks access to unmetered (or even stable!) 3G/4G access.
[12-22, 18:04] <dilworks> some of us still listen music on cellphones with limited storage and FUCK THE CLOUD. But yeah, for long-time storage there are far better options. This is why I download lossless and do my own transcodes.
[12-22, 18:03] <dilworks> > 128Kbps
[12-22, 18:02] <NoobSubs> @OnDeed It's probably only for low bitrates.
[12-22, 17:54] <惡靈降世> I'm a little teapot, Short and stout, Here is my handle, Here is my spout, When I get all steamed up, Hear me shout, Tip me over and pour me out! I'm a clever teapot, Yes, it's true, Here's an example of what I can do, I can turn my handle into a spout, Tip me over and pour me out!
[12-22, 17:53] <NoobSubs> What's the point of low bitrates? Why the hell would people encode a song at 96kbps or 128kbps when they have Terabytes of storage? Just put it at +245kbps and you have a perfectly good transparent audio file.
[12-22, 17:25] <sephirotic> It'd be interesting to try QAAC at 160kbps, maybe it would perform better than nero at Q0.5 but back on the day I didn´t know that you didn´t need to install the full Itunes so I never bothered testing it, This, of course, is talking about Music, Video Soundtrack doesn´t need as much bitrate since it has much less audio information overall and most of our attention is focused on the image so 128kbps VBR FHG should be more than enough. I wonder how QAAC fares with Multichannel audio, tough, it's otimization weren´t very good back in 2013 and I've heard some issues with dynamic range compression.
[12-22, 17:22] <sephirotic> Last year I lurked a lot on the HA forum's ad performed lot's of tests with Nero, FHG, and FDK and discussed with other users. While FHG had the overall best quality at 128kbps, it had a more unpredictable quality overall with different samples, FDK had simillar issues. Biggest problem of FHG is not having a intermediate optimized VBR settings between 128 and 192. 192 tends to be overkill with most AAC encoders for most samples, so it kinda defeats the purporse of using FHG for the best "transparent" setting if either QAAC or Nero or FDK achieve it at around 160kbps settings. The reason I still use nero is because I've found 160kbps still not enough for some difficutl samples in therms of transparency and at Q0.5 (the default most optimized setting for nero) it was just the sweet spot for me.
[12-22, 17:16] <[TRVE]> Or at the very least as an executable and a few DLLs.
[12-22, 17:14] <[TRVE]> I'd like an up-to-date AAC encoder that comes as one executable that includes everything it needs and doesn't require installation.
[12-22, 17:10] <OnDeed> *nero has been behind for a few years (sorry there, busy day...)
[12-22, 17:09] <OnDeed> apple's encoder should be a sure shot in any case
[12-22, 17:09] <OnDeed> nero has beehind behind for a few year, fraunhofer has had some new thing in this or last year
[12-22, 17:08] <NoobSubs> You sure about that? I remember Fraunhofer being the worse.
[12-22, 16:48] <OnDeed> nero is worse than fraunhofer and apple
[12-22, 16:18] <NoobSubs> Nero AAC FTW!
[12-22, 16:15] <kayllin> @ sephirotic why would I be butthurt, I have 7 HDDs also but I don't go boasting about it to everybody do I.