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Raw Anime[Zero-Raws] Soul Eater 15 Raw [Late Show] (TVO x264+AAC 16.9 1440x1080).mp4DL473.8 MiB00710
Raw Anime[Zero-Raws] Himitsu The Revelation 16 RAW (640x360 DivX683 23.98fps MP3 192Kbps)(1).aviDL219.1 MiB00710
Raw Anime[Shinsen-Raws] Zettai Karen Children - 13 (BS-J_1920x1080 VFR x264-AAC).mp4DL721.6 MiB00710
Raw Anime[Zero-Raws] Macross FRONTIER 16 (D-MBS x264 High@4 1280x720 AAC).mp4DL369 MiB00710
Raw Animeryohu01DL281 MiBStatus unknown711
Raw Anime[Shinsen-Raws] Tetsuwan Birdy DECODE - 04 (BS11_1280x720 x264-AAC).mp4DL376.7 MiB00710
Raw Anime[Zero-Raws] D.Gray-man - 94 RAW (D-TVO 704x396 DivX683).aviDL168.9 MiB00710
Raw Anime[Zero-Raws] Real Drive - 17 RAW (D-NTV DivX6.8.3 120fps 1280x720).aviDL213.2 MiB00710
English-translated AnimeAlrs-LanDL2.73 GiBStatus unknown710
Raw Anime[Zero-Raws] Zettai Karen Children - 17 (D-TVA DivX6.8.3 704x396 120fps).aviDL302.1 MiB00710
English-translated AnimeGAWL ISO 04DL3.97 GiBStatus unknown710
English-translated AnimeGAWL ISO 02DL4.15 GiBStatus unknown710
Raw Anime[Shinsen-Raws] Macross Frontier - 17 (1280x720 DivX6.8 Kome).aviDL376.3 MiB00710
Raw Anime[Shinsen-Raws] STRIKE WITCHES 05 (1024x576 x264 AAC).mp4DL346.6 MiB00710
Raw Anime[Zero-Raws] Zettai Karen Children - 18 (1024x576 DivX683).aviDL363.8 MiB00710
Raw Anime[Zero-Raws] Code Geass Hangyaku no Lelouch R2 17 RAW (1280x720 x264).mp4DL357.7 MiB00710
Raw Anime[Zero-Raws] Mission-E - 04 (D-TVS x264 1280x720).mp4DL233.8 MiB00710
Raw Anime[Zero-Raws] Special A - 18 RAW (1280x720 x264-aac 24fps).mp4DL395.6 MiB00710
Non-English-translated Anime[DVD-RIP JAP MKV-HardSub-ITA] Naruto Shippuuden - Ep 15 [C-BT Fansub]DL310.3 MiBStatus unknown710
Raw Anime[HorribleRaws]_Slayers_Revolution_-_6_(480x270).wmvDL105.1 MiB00710
English-translated Anime[Hatsuyuki]_Sekirei_-_06_SD_[704x396][2A7BBFA0].aviDL129.3 MiB00710
Raw Anime[Shinsen-Raws] Kateikyoushi Hitman REBORN! 94(WMV9 640x480 24fps).aviDL189.6 MiB00710
Raw Anime[Zero-Raws] Allison to Lillia VOL 1 (iso+mds rr3%)DL4.21 GiB00710
Raw Anime[Zero-Raws] Yakushiji Ryouko no Kaiki Jikenbo 06 RAW (704x396 DivX684).aviDL182.4 MiB00710
English-translated Animetenti movie dvdDL4.32 GiBStatus unknown710
Raw Anime[Zero-Raws] Hidamari Sketch x365 - 07 RAW (D-TBS 640x480 Divx684 120fps).aviDL337.4 MiB00710
Non-English-translated Anime[Delphi]_Vampire_Knight_02v2_[0AA5BF9C].aviDL229.9 MiB00710
Raw Anime[Zero-Raws] Hidamari Sketch x365 - 07 RAW (D-TBS x264 960x720).mp4DL221.7 MiB00710
Raw Anime[Zero-Raws] Tetsuwan Birdy DECODE - 07 RAW (BS11 1280x720 DivX684.aviDL217.4 MiB00710
Raw Anime[HorribleRaws]_One_Piece_-_366_(480x270).wmvDL104.4 MiB00710
Lossless AudioJack Brooks Monster Slayer.2008.DvdRip.XViD[].aviDL961.7 MiBStatus unknown710
English-translated Animenegima.ala.alba.(eng)DL2.6 MiBStatus unknown710
Raw Anime[Zero-Raws] Golgo 13 - 19 (D-TX 1280x720 DivX684).aviDL271.6 MiB00710
Non-English-translated Anime[Delphi]_Vampire_Knight_06_[F5B4C003].aviDL189.7 MiB00710
English-translated Live ActionRomance in the Rain ep02DL324.3 MiB00710
Raw Anime[Zero-Raws] Telepathy Shoujo Ran - 09 (24m30s 704x396 DivX6.84 24fps).aviDL114.4 MiB00710
Non-English-translated Anime[CANF] Blassreiter10 (Xvid)DL275.5 MiB01710
Raw Anime[Zero-Raws] Soul Eater 21 RAW (704x396 DivX683).aviDL147.2 MiB00710
Raw Anime[Shinsen-Raws] Mahou Tsukai ni Taisetsu na Koto ~Natsu no Sora~ 08 (1280x720 x264 AAC).mp4DL308.1 MiB00710
Raw Anime[Zero-Raws] Special A - 22 RAW (704x396 Xvid).aviDL198.6 MiB00710
Non-English-translated Anime[DVD-RIP JAP MKV-HardSub-ITA] Naruto Shippuuden - Ep 19 [C-BT Fansub]DL200.1 MiBStatus unknown710
Raw Anime[Zero-Raws] Hidamari Sketch x365 - 10 RAW (640x480 Divx683 120fps).aviDL240.6 MiB00710
Raw Anime[HorribleRaws]_Nabari_no_Ou_-_23_(480x270).wmvDL100.1 MiB00710
Raw Anime[Zero-Raws] Koihime Musou - 10 (D-CTC 1280x720 Divx683 120fps).aviDL336.2 MiB00710
English-translated Anime[MKnF] Macross Frontier 08[848x480 Xvid+mp3].aviDL172.2 MiB00710
Raw Anime[HorribleRaws]_Gintama_-_123_(480x270).wmvDL100.6 MiB00710
Non-English-translated Anime[DVD-RIP JAP MKV-HardSub-ITA] Naruto Shippuuden - Ep 22 [C-BT Fansub]DL200.1 MiBStatus unknown710
Non-English-translated Anime[KNF] Bleach -The Diamond Dust Rebelion- [La Otra Hyourinmaru] sub spanish.aviDL706.4 MiBStatus unknown710
Raw Anime[HorribleRaws]_Seiyou_Kottou_Yougashiten_~Antique~_-_11_(480x270).wmvDL84.9 MiB00710
English-translated Anime[Last-Team] Mahou Tsukai 03 (704x400 X264-PCM 29.9fps)-[K89].aviDL330.9 MiB01710
Non-English-translated Anime[Timber Maniacs] Naruto Shippuuden 075 LQDL211.4 MiBStatus unknown710
English-translated Anime[Modified-gg+Eclipse] CODE GEASS R2 - 22 [1440x1080 h264 aac].mkvDL375.9 MiB00710
Raw Anime[Zero-Raws] Golgo 13 - 23 (D-TX 1280x720 DivX684).aviDL201.8 MiB00710
Raw Anime[Shinsen-Raws] Shugo Chara! 49 (1280x720 x264 AAC).mp4DL260.2 MiB00710
Raw Anime[HorribleRaws]_Gintama_-_124_(480x270).wmvDL94.5 MiB00710
Raw Anime[Shinsen-Raws] Koihime Musou - 11 (1280x720 VFR[ED60fps] x264-AAC).mp4DL478.4 MiB00710
Raw Anime[Shinsen-Raws] Macross Frontier - 24 (1440x1080 x264-AAC).mp4DL723.3 MiB00710
Raw Anime[Zero-Raws] Itazura na kiss 24 (1024x576 DivX+MP3 23.976fps).aviDL237 MiB00710
Raw Anime[Zero-Raws] Soul Eater 25 RAW (704x396 DivX684).aviDL247 MiB00710
Non-English-translated Anime[TzaTziki]_One_Piece_361_[1280x720]DL220 MiB01710
Non-English-translated Anime[TzaTziki]_One_Piece_363_[720x480]DL385.9 MiB00710
Raw Anime[Zero-Raws] Strike Witches TV - 01 RAW (DVD 704x396 WMV9 QL97).wmvDL378.8 MiB00710
Raw Anime[Zero-Raws] Blue Dragon - Tenkai no Shichi Ryuu 26 (D-TVO 704x396 DivX684).aviDL354.7 MiB00710
Raw Anime[Zero-Raws] Zettai Karen Children - 26 [24m40s 1280x720 DivX50x+MP3].aviDL536.8 MiB00710
Non-English-translated Anime[SubZero] Linebarrels of Iron - 01 [1280x720][H264-AAC][ITA].mp4DL339.9 MiBStatus unknown710
Non-English-translated Anime[AL] Bounen no Xamdou 04DL249.6 MiB00710
Raw Anime[HorribleRaws]_Golgo_13_-_27_(640x360).wmvDL104.7 MiBStatus unknown710
Non-English-translated Anime[DVD-RIP JAP MKV-HardSub-ITA] Naruto Shippuuden - Ep 27 [C-BT Fansub]DL199.9 MiBStatus unknown710
Non-English-translated Anime[S-F]One Piece ep 01-22[640x480 XVID mp3]DL4.36 GiBStatus unknown710
Raw Anime[Shinsen-Raws] To Aru Majyutsu no Index - 02 (1280x720 x264-AAC).mp4DL453.1 MiB00710
Raw Anime[Shnsen-Raws] TALES OF THE ABYSS 03 (1440x1080 x264 AAC 24fps).mp4DL620.2 MiB00710
Raw Anime[Shinsen-Raws] Jigoku Shoujo Mitsuganae 02 (1024x576 x264 AAC VFR).mp4DL321.4 MiB00710
Anime Music VideoMichiko e HatchinDL181.8 MiB00710
Raw Anime[Shinsen-Raws] Mouryou no Hako - 02 (D-NTV 1440x1080 16:9 x264-AAC).mp4DL560.1 MiB00710
Raw Anime[Zero-Raws] Kateikyoushi Hitman Reborn! - 104 (704x396 XviD).aviDL200 MiB00710
Raw Anime[Shinsen-Raws] Jigoku Shoujo Mitsuganae 03 (1024x576 x264 AAC VFR).mp4DL338.9 MiB00710
Raw Anime[Zero-Raws] Skip Beat! - 03 RAW (1024x576 DivX6.84 23.98fps).aviDL252.7 MiB00710
Raw Anime[HorribleRaws]_ToraDora!_-_4_(640x360).wmvDL108.5 MiBStatus unknown710
Raw Anime[HorribleRaws]_Hyakko_-_4_(640x360).wmvDL108.2 MiBStatus unknown710
English-translated Live Action[Order of Zeronos] Engine Sentai Go-onger Episode 20.aviDL245.5 MiB01710
Non-English-translated Anime[TzaTziki]_One_Piece_351_HDDL249.8 MiB00710
Non-English-translated Anime[BKT] Akane-iro ni Somaru Saka - 03 [HD - ITA]DL268.1 MiBStatus unknown710
Raw Anime[HorribleRaws]_Vampire_Knight_Guilty_-_5_(640x360).wmvDL186.3 MiBStatus unknown710
English-translated Animekemeko deluxe 2 sub esp.mp4DL146.8 MiBStatus unknown710
Raw Anime[K-G] Bleach - 193 (704x396 XviD)DL298 MiBStatus unknown710
English-translated Anime[AnimeLand-NFS] Bleach 193 Sub Ita (Hs 1280x720)DL295.9 MiBStatus unknown710
English-translated Anime[GGR] XamD Lost Memories - S01xE13 Running Barefoot [58746141] aviDL171.5 MiBStatus unknown710
Raw Anime[HorribleRaws]_Katekyo_Hitman_Reborn!_-_107_(640x360).wmvDL201.4 MiBStatus unknown710
English-translated Anime[D-R]_Chaos;Head_-_05_[h264_1280x720][7A9726B5].mkvDL267.2 MiB00710
English-translated Anime[NnoK] Wagaya no Oinari-sama - Special - 3 [CCDDC170].mkvDL33.7 MiB00710
English-translated AnimeGoku Sayonara Zetsubou Sensei - Ep01 [DnD] [6140D8F1].mkvDL343.8 MiB00710
Raw Anime[HorribleRaws]_To_Aru_Majutsu_no_Index_-_6_(640x360).wmvDL200.3 MiBStatus unknown710
Raw Anime[Zero-Raws] Kidou Senshi Gundam 00 2nd Season - 06 RAW (D-TBS DivX6.8.5 24fps 704x396).aviDL241.8 MiB00710
Raw Animeyozakura quartetDL110.4 MiB00710
Raw Anime[hyeoks] ef a tale of melodies 6話 (DivX6.8.5 704x396)DL226.7 MiB00710
Non-English-translated Anime[BKT] D.Gray-Man 92 HD (SUB ITA).mp4DL278 MiB01710
Non-English-translated Anime[BKT] D.Gray-Man 93 HD (SUB ITA).mp4DL277.1 MiB01710
Non-English-translated Anime[WSS] BLEACH - 195 SD [B43EBC85]DL159.3 MiB00710
Raw Anime[HorribleRaws]_Hyakko_-_7_(640x360).wmvDL182.7 MiBStatus unknown710
Non-English-translated AnimeCandy Boy EX 01 (anime yuri) Spanish. EspañolDL59 MiB00710
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[Omnicat] <Nyaa> We will of course be playing Star Citizen. If you have a game package, you can join our subversion efforts right here. See you in the 'verse!
[10-01, 12:21] <GoldenCrow> go kill yourself! (did i do it right?)
[10-01, 11:50] <x265> @lotusgg I see, then I'll keep using this aq values for now, I'll be testing with other anime, in order to get "general settings for anime"
[10-01, 10:19] <AttackNeo++> Seed Please
[10-01, 10:02] <sarachikorita> Oh geez, Mediaset...the Italian masters of the Macekre
[10-01, 09:34] <HypnoDisk> Ciao Benjo ti ringrazio follemente per questa tua release, era tanto che cercavo l'intera serie col doppiaggio milanese. Tuttavia devo segnalarti un piccolo errore. L'episoio 006 non ha la traccia Mediaset, la seconda traccia infatti è sempre quella del doppiaggio romano anni 80. Puoi risolvere? (o in caso contrario dove posso recuperare il 6° episodio col doppiaggio Mediset?)
[10-01, 08:40] <[WolfPack]> The anime suggestion I made is the link for the 480p. I LOVE CRAP. It's a wonderful fertilizer. Enjoy~
[10-01, 08:38] <[WolfPack]> Kips, you have made no torrents and I bet you're not sharing either. So I don't see much value in your mere opinion. I was about to make this torrent but it was already made, so I adopted it. Nozaki is hilarious: #603990
[10-01, 08:31] <[WolfPack]> I'm a french canadian, to me a meme is a grandmother, and they're both dead. I make demotivational posters. I have more than 200 but I'm just getting started. I think that the one I shared is relevant here, and quicker than saying it in my usual millions words. Enjoy. It's so freaking cute!
[10-01, 08:18] <Kips> your memes end here
[10-01, 06:51] <[WolfPack]> I actually came here to edit my torrents with a demotivational poster about the importance of sharing. Look at how cute it is! I'm going to eat so I won't get the wonderful insults you're going to use to praise me. Enjoy~
[10-01, 06:49] <[WolfPack]> Then why are you here and with a member name. *hands over a rope to Mayobe* Come back as a zombie and watch Tokyo Ghoul
[10-01, 06:40] <Mayobe> Anyone who watches anime should hang themselves.
[10-01, 06:14] <jofs> Underwater = Steven Seagal. Hard to kill
[10-01, 05:16] <Abunja> talking about rip, has underwater re-surfaced again? i saw their release of barakamon the other day.
[10-01, 05:13] <Abunja> there is no easier explanation other than that
[10-01, 05:12] <Abunja> rip = death
[10-01, 05:05] <hazardous> encode from lossless = rip. encode from rip = re-encode. encode from re-encode = death.
[10-01, 04:39] <eternia> Anyone who watches 50 MB anime should hang themselves.
[10-01, 04:39] <lotusgg> you understood me well. Using a 1080p to reencode to 720p is still a reencode.
[10-01, 04:36] <sarachikorita> You would do better to encode CR's 1080p video to 720p, instead of using their 720p at all.
[10-01, 04:30] <NoobSubs> Anyone who watches 50MB Anime files should be ashamed of themselves.
[10-01, 04:14] <lae> >implying source has much anything to do with size
[10-01, 03:46] <krucierchan> i do faggot fuckin fight me I like my 50mb animes it saves a lot of space, queer
[10-01, 03:46] <HerbalNekoTea> Some people has brain fart in the chat. lol
[10-01, 03:41] <herkz> lol who the fuck encodes from CR's 720p video
[10-01, 03:17] <lotusgg> using crunchyroll 2pass 1800kbit and reencode it is not incredible at all.
[10-01, 03:16] <lotusgg> @crf if all reencodes are shit, then almost all releases at nyaa are shit.
[10-01, 03:06] <lotusgg> aq2 is still better for economic bitrates tho.
[10-01, 03:05] <lotusgg> @x265 aq1 is better at highet bitrates and with grainy anime, also is meant to be used with higher strenght.
[10-01, 02:29] <crf> All re-encodes are shit.
[10-01, 02:18] <OnDeed> the best thing soviet union did was to die \o/
[10-01, 02:17] <OnDeed> yeah, I wish they would drop it, those trolls
[10-01, 02:04] <x265> Name is kind of a joke
[10-01, 02:01] <LiQuid> is vlc bad to use ? cuz I have no idea what CCCP is.
[10-01, 01:43] <Senfu> Database, Database
[09-30, 22:59] <x265> Why nyaa should be https? I mean, no personal data involved...
[09-30, 22:58] <SneakiestNEG> If I had a euro for every time someone asked why it is called the 25th anniversary! Any decent extras?
[09-30, 22:55] <SneakiestNEG> Weird nyaa is not https. Never noticed that.
[09-30, 22:50] <SneakiestNEG> I am incredibly old skool Just get mp4, throw it on a flash drive and stick it in a smart tv. Sure tv's are not the best media players but it is good enough.
[09-30, 22:29] <x265> @lotusgg I think I've found a set of better parameters for anime, aq-strength=2 is even better, I'll upload same episode with new settings, to compare
[09-30, 22:22] <OKanime Team> ops, sorry for the spam ><
[09-30, 22:22] <OKanime Team> any news about Tokyo Ghoul's BD? -_-
[09-30, 22:21] <OKanime Team> any news about Tokyo Ghoul's BD? -_-
[09-30, 21:41] <lotusgg> because of CTUs size. Anime is mostly flat textures.
[09-30, 21:23] <x265> x265 is very good with edge-detection (if anime is simple, that is good), but modern anime has a lot of lighting, shading... effects, and that's a problem
[09-30, 21:18] <[TRVE]> Who gave you that idea?
[09-30, 21:17] <lotusgg> In case of x265, anime is the best scenario.
[09-30, 21:08] <OneCrazyRussian> Just make all video into keyframe-jpgs and make user to SVP that shit realtime
[09-30, 21:07] <OnDeed> *x264 beats
[09-30, 21:07] <OnDeed> 1) those numbers are more like "best case scenario, maybe, we hope at least" 2) it of course depends on the source and varies all the time 3) hhevc encoders aren't as mature so x264 (h.264) betas them by better utilization of the older format
[09-30, 21:05] <OnDeed> "x265 could half-size it or even double-quality it for the same size" --- no. I know that "50% better" is the usual media story for H.265, but compression simply doesn't work like that
[09-30, 21:00] <herkz> best size/quality ratio is smallest you can make it while making the encode transparent to the source
[09-30, 20:54] <lotusgg> anime blurays are usually 1gb+, when not 2gb. x265 could half-size it or even double-quality it for the same size.
[09-30, 20:49] <Prazision> I'd rather have a larger file that doesn't look like shit, tbh.
[09-30, 20:48] <aceCaptainSlow> Is this argument still going? XD
[09-30, 20:46] <sarachikorita> Well, you could do this: mux the video and audio into M2TS or MKV, and add PGS subtitles.
[09-30, 20:44] <xell17> Oh god, the new GitS 25th anniversary blu-ray is just as shitty as the old one. What a bummer.
[09-30, 20:42] <kandenshi> [TransportSubs]
[09-30, 20:38] <x265> I'm trying to encode the best I can, but targeting for best size/quality, not best quality
[09-30, 20:35] <NoobSubs> Not all re-encodes are shit.
[09-30, 20:34] <lotusgg> so why no crf0 the shit out?
[09-30, 20:29] <crf> You (probably) can't do typesetting with transport streams.
[09-30, 20:27] <lotusgg> why not sub into transport streams?
[09-30, 20:23] <crf> Stop comparing re-encodes. They'll look like shit anyway.
[09-30, 20:20] <OnDeed> (unless I musunderstood something)
[09-30, 20:19] <OnDeed> well, he is just going to be another re-encoding group anyway, so why discuss it to this degree. Those obviously don'T really care about how the stuff looks
[09-30, 20:19] <lotusgg> I'm pretty sure you just hate.
[09-30, 20:15] <herkz> i'm pretty sure you're just blind
[09-30, 20:14] <x265> I aiming to crf=21 with x265, which makes ~50% less size usually, and if you need to pause on flashing frames to tell difference, that would be "acceptable" for me
[09-30, 20:08] <lotusgg> even zero-raws use crf16~19
[09-30, 20:08] <lotusgg> <herkz> yes, and i'm saying that is far below "acceptable" >crf21
[09-30, 20:03] <OnDeed> <atikabubu> wait for daiz to pop out of the devil's ass and introduce something among the lines of x265 Hi444p --- why, that obviously exists, already. There is a 10bit profile for HEVC too.
[09-30, 19:52] <herkz> yes, and i'm saying that is far below "acceptable"
[09-30, 19:49] <atikabubu> 4K anime? tell me more, John Titor
[09-30, 19:47] <HerbalNekoTea> We need 4K anime before we really need to compare those encoding, i guess some of those encode will not be compatible with 4K. wwwww
[09-30, 19:46] <Senfu> .flv best format period /s
[09-30, 19:40] <atikabubu> wait for daiz to pop out of the devil's ass and introduce something among the lines of x265 Hi444p
[09-30, 19:38] <NoobSubs> x265 will conquer the world someday herkz.
[09-30, 19:21] <x265> Yeah, I know it has problems, crf=21, what did you expect? I'm just testing low bitrate, to get "acceptable" quailty
[09-30, 19:17] <herkz> all of your comparisons look fucking horrible holy shit are you blind
[09-30, 19:16] <OnDeed> "<x265> Watch this, this x265 encoding is ~40% lighter than original" -- you got some ugly blocking and banding there...
[09-30, 19:12] <x265> Both are x265, just to compare how parameters really matters
[09-30, 19:12] <deanzel> Who cares about how x265 encodes and displays animu. I'm more concerned with how my favorite Chinese cartoons will look. I need that proof before I am convinced about x265.
[09-30, 19:10] <lotusgg> try aq-strenght 1.5
[09-30, 19:08] <x265> @HerbalNekoTea,yeah, testing the x265 parameters to find the best for anime, some people here has been really helpful
[09-30, 19:05] <jofs> This
[09-30, 19:05] <x265> So, light is way smoother, but the edge-detection (look at the squares in her skirt) is messed up
[09-30, 19:04] <HerbalNekoTea> Common, you are still arguing about encode... I think you was arguing for the last 48h...
[09-30, 19:02] <x265> (Subs does not appear in one of them because is skipped just in the frame xD)
[09-30, 19:01] <x265> Watch this, this x265 encoding is ~40% lighter than original
[09-30, 18:58] <lotusgg> -2:-2 would be a great for holding up to all details that psy washes.
[09-30, 18:57] <lotusgg> I wish there were cabac deblocking
[09-30, 18:49] <x265> I've tried those values, fading is way smoother, even with crf=21; so this means more testing to do, I hope is worth it
[09-30, 18:47] <lotusgg> and psy-rd/oq in x265 is not the same as in x264.
[09-30, 18:46] <lotusgg> aq1 will not work as good as it does for x265 in x264
[09-30, 18:38] <x265> I see, I'll try psy 0 values and aq-mode 1 (all presets use 0 or 2, don't know why)
[09-30, 18:34] <hazardous> but everyone using psy between 0.60-90
[09-30, 18:22] <lotusgg> also aq-mode 1 produced less artifacs at +-1000kbit/s
[09-30, 18:22] <lotusgg> with x265, try psy-rd and rdoq at 0